Are you a christian?

Toschy
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10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.

The reason is, that I don't understand, why anyone should adore 5 or 10 little gods out of thousands and not one great God instead of thousands of little gods.

imhc(hristian)o there can't be "more gods"...
the word "god" implies that ther's at most one (if at all)...

anybody who say's "there is only one god" tells nothing else but a tautology
furthermore, any christian who tells you that you should't pray to "an other god" can't be a real christian...


THERE IS NO "OTHER GOD"
ther's only god, nothing more, nothing less roll


my2cents großes Grinsen


EDIT: on top of the 10 commandments there is written "dont have any god besiode me"... this should be understood as an image (metaphor) for all the things which are adored nowadays (e.g. money)
Marko_Jadranovic.OP
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The point is, if it's all a matter of interpretation, who is the one to pick the right one??? Isn't a religion then a very individual thing, which can't work in a group???


It's an act in concert.
It's the Magisterium (teaching office), that interprets the Bible in accordance with what has been handed on to it by tradition; and it's the Church (the 'whole body of the faithful') that perceives and keeps these truths all together, and will all together not err in matters of belief.

What could I know better than millions and millions of believers that were thinking about it again and again since about 2000 years?
schmaexx
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that perceives and keeps these truths all together

You mean by being interpreted by the Magisterium an interpratation becomes truth????

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and will all together not err in matters of belief.

Why??? It's still humans interpreting the bible. And just because they claim to have the right to teach the word of God???


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What could I know better than millions and millions of believers that were thinking about it again and again since about 2000 years?

If any great scientist had thought like that, and if everybody thinks like that, there couldn't be any progress!!! (Or why should Galileo have watched the stars???)

Well, i guess, it's just you're opinion or you're always in danger, to be manipulated.

Remember, it's not all facts, but the church is telling you, it's all facts (or at least most of it)!!!
Marko_Jadranovic.OP
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that perceives and keeps these truths all together

You mean by being interpreted by the Magisterium an interpratation becomes truth?

No! Thruth is not made by anybody!

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and will all together not err in matters of belief.

Why??? It's still humans interpreting the bible. And just because they claim to have the right to teach the word of God?

You misunderstood what I wrote.
I meant: It's the whole of all faithfull, that will not err in matters of belief - and it's the Magisterium that teaches.

It's the orchestra that makes the music, and it's the Magisterium that conducts, so that the music will not turn out to be caterwauling and infernal row.
The composition itself is 'written' by God.


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What could I know better than millions and millions of believers that were thinking about it again and again since about 2000 years?

If any great scientist had thought like that, and if everybody thinks like that, there couldn't be any progress!!! (Or why should Galileo have watched the stars???)

Oh no! We didn't discuss about science, did we! The Magisterium doesn't teach astronony, but it teaches the Christian belief.
How do you think that there could be a progress in belief?
Concerning astronomy, the Magisterium had to find out how to interpret the Bible ("Sun, stand still..."), after astronomy had found out, that the earth encircles the sun.
The reading will change a bit, but the truth will be the same.


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Remember, it's not all facts, but the church is telling you, it's all facts (or at least most of it)!!!

What facts do you mean?
Aurom
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no sweet-talking christian will ever convince me that the ancient torture-instument with that ugly dead body pinned to it is a symbol of divine love

To me it's not a dead body, but a suffering man, looking down from the cross all ower the world, full of pity, understanding everything.
http://www.wga.hu/art/d/donatell/2_matur...va/1cruci_p.jpg

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...do they really think if jesus ever comes back, he wants to see a cross?

(I' ll try to translate: ) "...Then I saw a new Heaven and a new earth. I saw the holy town Jerusalem like a bride, who dressed herself for her bridegroom. Then I heared a loud voice shouting: "...He will wipe all tears from their eyes, and there will be no more death, no sorrow, no pain and no sorrow..." (Ap.21, 1-4)

That's why I believe, that there will not be any more cross for anybody.


exactly the above mentioned "sweet talking"... nunja
Physiker
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Top Ten Signs that You're a Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian.


nice and funny!
Silvan
I wonder whether there are similar lists of questions for other religions? smile
Jeffrey mc
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I am sad, but this is the life.

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